High Street Tram alterations (Cashel Street to Lichfield Street)
These works mainly arise from laying the tram tracks - there will be double tracks over this section. This part of High St will be a "slow street" and space appears to being created for cyclists as well as the trams. In addition, cycle stands will be provided!
The trams have to cross the pedestrian area at the junction of High and Lichfield Sts in order to cross the intersection into the next section of High St. This may provide an opportunity to improve cycling ccess between these two sections of High St as well (currently linking them requires an awakward devisation via Manchester St). However, the current proposal doesn't appear to provide for this.
A plan of the proposal is attached.
An email submission ha sbeen lodged, as follows:
Dear Anne
Thanks for the opportunity to comment on this project. We see a number of potential issues arising from the installation of tram tracks in High Street, and the way this has been addressed in the proposed design. Unless these issues are addressed, they will significantly diminish the usefulness and pleasantness of High Street for cycling, particularly if the same design is extended to the other sections of the street.
Of particular concern is the space designated for cyclists between the parking bays and the outer tram track (approx. 1.7 metres). A cyclist riding between parked cars and the outer tram track and trying to avoid opening car doors will be very close to the track, and a minor movement outwards could see them getting their front wheel caught in the rail. As we know from the Armagh / Rolleston intersection, this can result in frequent cycle accidents.
To make matters worse, the parking bays are very narrow at 2.0 metres. For years, CCC has been building parking bays at 2.3 metres, as this reflects driver behaviour. Drivers having to manoeuvre into a parking bay across a V channel often end up significantly further away from the kerb than where a parking lane is marked on the carriageway (the V channel is only shown on the cross section; the plan view doesn't give this detail).
With the layout proposed, cyclists riding between the outer tram rail and parked cars will constantly within the door opening zone, as the proposed corridor is too narrow for this, and the parking bays are not deep enough (and are a departure from Council’s own practice). Opening car doors are the main hazards for cyclists in the midblock. Cycle safety problems have therefore been engineered into the proposed design, as it stands.
It will be far safer to cycle between the tram rails, i.e. in the same position where a tram would position itself. This is already common practice on other sections of road with straight stretches of tram lines (e.g. Worcester Boulevard). For this to be comfortable for most cyclists in this location, we suggest:
Posting a 20 km/h speed limit for the street (which would support Council’s aim of creating a slow street environment),
Making the carriageway narrower, so that the gap between parked cars and the tram tracks reduces to something that is obviously too narrow for cyclists to use (We suggest reducing the carriageway width from 8.3 metres to perhaps 7.0 metres, which gives another 650 mm on each side to footpaths and/or some more width to the parking bays), and
Marking the location between the tram lines with some road markings other than the normal cycle logo (as that defines a cycle lane which no other traffic can routinely use) so that all road users know that this is where cyclists are supposed to be.
The trams will cross the pedestrian area at the junction of High and Lichfield Sts in order to cross the intersection and gain the next section of High St. This should also provide an opportunity to improve cycling access between these two sections of High St (currently linking them requires an awkward deviation via Manchester St). Cyclists could simply use the same signals as the trams will use to cross the intersection, while other traffic is stopped. We request that the project be amended to make provision for such improved access. The pedestrian crosswalks at the Lichfield / Manchester intersection will also need to be adjusted to take account of the tram tracks and tram movements in the area.
Once again, thanks for the opportunity to provide comment on these projects. We would like to be heard in support of our submission.
Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any queries or require further information.
Yours sincerely
Robin Delamore
Robin Delamore
Cycling Improvements convenor - Spokes
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High Street Tram tracks.
High Street Tram tracks. Email submission lodged based on comments provided - thanks Walter & Glen. The submission is included in the original post. Note: this is not a consultative proposal, so there may not be an opportunity to attend a hearing.
Well done Robin, good
Well done Robin, good submission!
Glen Koorey
Spokes Core Member
What about requesting all of
What about requesting all of High St become a car free zone? Make it similar to the northern end of the street?
I believe car parking on the northern side of Armagh St contributes to the increased hazard for cyclists here, especially along the busy bit between Durham and Regent Sts.
Given Bob Shearing is a victim of tram tracks, there may be an opportunity to work with him to get the changes we want.
Nigel
So Council is proposing to
So Council is proposing to reconstruct High Street between Cashel Street and Lichfield Street. The cross section shows parking bays with the occasional tree, and a relatively narrow carriageway that accommodates proposed tram tracks. And it seems that the safety of cyclists has once again been overlooked completely.
The outer rail is about 1.7 m outside of the parking bay (scaled from their cross section). A cyclists riding between the parking bay and the outer tram track, trying to stay away from opening car doors, would be very close to the rail, and any slight wobble might see them getting their front wheel caught in the rails. As we know from the Armagh / Rolleston intersection, this can result in frequent crashes.
But to make matters worse, the parking bays are very narrow at 2.0 m. For years, CCC has been building parking bays at 2.3 m, as this reflects driver behaviour. Drivers having to manoeuvre into a parking bay across a V channel often end up significantly further away from the kerb than where a parking lane is marked on the carriageway. By the way, the V channel is only shown on the cross section; the plan view doesn't give this detail.
With the layout proposed by CCC, cyclists riding between the outer tram rail and parked cars will constantly be riding in the door opening zone, as the provided corridor is too narrow for this, and the parking bays are not deep enough and are a departure from Council’s own practice. Opening car doors are the main hazards for cyclists in the midblock, and cycle safety problems have been engineered into the layout.
It will be far safer to cycle between the tram rails, i.e. in the same position where a tram would position itself. For this to be comfortable for most cyclists, I suggest:
- Posting a 20 km/h speed limit (which would support Council’s aim of creating a slow street environment),
- Making the carriageway narrower, so that the gap between parked cars and the tram tracks reduces to something that is obviously too narrow for cyclists to use (I suggest to reduce the carriageway width from 8.3 m to perhaps 7.0 m, which gives another 650 mm on each side to footpaths and/or some more width to the parking bays), and
- Marking the location between the tram lines with some road markings other than the normal cycle logo (as that defines a cycle lane which no other traffic can routinely use) so that all road users know that this is where cyclists are supposed to be.
As an aside, the pedestrian crosswalks at the Lichfield / Manchester intersection will need to be adjusted. Or are pedestrians really supposed to wait in the locations where the tram crosses the intersection?I tend to agree with the
I tend to agree with the narrower carriageway approach, esp. in the absence of useful info in the consultation material about the actual location of the tram tracks (we should note in our submission that, given our previously raised concerns about tram tracks, it would be nice if they actually provided more practical info about where they actually are in relation to everything else).
The alternative to a shared-lane road marking (or in addition) is a sign showing bike/car/tram behind each other with the legend "SHARE THE LANE". Have seen similar pics in the US.
It would be a nice concept to allow the cyclists to continue using the tram pathways to the Lichfield corner, thus allowing them easier access to the other streets. I suspect in practice cyclists entering High St north would use it anyway. For those heading south, they could simply use the same signals that the southbound trams get, to cross over to Lichfield, High or Manchester while everyone else is stopped.
I'm not sure why the Council is suddenly a big fan of these "ringbinder" cycle stands (other than their "architectural style"); they actually strike me as being less practical for actually supporting a bicycle (judging by the plans, they haven't exactly left a lot of space between them either). A few more bike stands at the Lichfield corner would also be great.
A horizontal bar across the stands lower down would also help to provide more bike fixing points plus (putting on my Living Streets hat) it would provide something for a sweeping white-cane to locate. Similar principle with those "Four Aves" seats; with no horizontal item low to the ground, the first thing a visually impaired person will hit is their knees on the seat.
Glen Koorey
Spokes Core Member